New Zealand's Jacinda Ardern on Her Change in Covid Strategy

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New Zealand ended its Covid-19 elimination strategy after an outbreak triggered a months-long lockdown in the country’s largest city. Now, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has put in place a phased reopening plan. We talk with Ardern about the economic cost of the country’s elimination strategy and what new variants mean for its plans.

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